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Hi all, great community here. I love to see older systems and more importantly rare system get emulated. Keep up the good work!

I wanted to drop in and make a small introduction and post a link to my work. The only bit of interest you may have, is my Virtual Boy usb adapter. I would be more then happy to help anyone that want to make one on there own.

I make a product called Bliss-Box. The aim of the product is to allow a one box solution for all adapters to usb. I have finally completed version 1.0 and reached my goals. You can read more here.
http://spawnlinux.dyndns.org/Bliss-Box/
this image does not include the VB

The VB, as most of you may know, is the same protocol for (s)nes with a few altered buttons assignments. That and the fact it is a different connector. As far as I could search, I could not find a female port.. Just so happens I make my own ports.. One of my hurtles with my project was cost. I could not make it affordable as I needed to buy all of the extension cables. So I mastered the art of making them.

I do my own custom fabrications and would not mind building a usb VB adapter for anyone that wants one. Feel free to drop by my site and inquire.

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So… this means you can use a VB controller on a PC without having to hack the controller or make an interface?

No offense… but that looks like a mess. IMO, I’d make a standard connector that attaches to your uC, and then sell adapters from whatever system to the uC connector. If possible, multiple ports off the same box would be cool (so people only had to buy one USB adapter and several common port adapters to do 2P).

But really… at $35 + $10 for additional ports, that doesn’t seem to really save much money over cheap adapters on ebay or the ones from http://www.retrousb.com . I’m not really sure a hand-built box can really be competitive with cheaply mass produced parts with molded plastic cases.

DogP

So… this means you can use a VB controller on a PC without having to hack the controller or make an interface?

– Correct

No offense… but that looks like a mess. IMO, I’d make a standard connector that attaches to your uC, and then sell adapters from whatever system to the uC connector. If possible, multiple ports off the same box would be cool (so people only had to buy one USB adapter and several common port adapters to do 2P).

That is an option as well, you can get just the board and wire it up your self. but IMO having all of these dongles or patch cables laying around is tacky.. But hey to each their own ..

If possible, multiple ports off the same box would be cool (so people only had to buy one USB adapter and several common port adapters to do 2P).

I did start out with the option for multi players. but the usb interface only handles one logic board at a time. So I than had to add hubs in the box, and small hubs lac distance. So it was a big mess. And it didn’t really save anything.

But really… at $35 + $10 for additional ports, that doesn’t seem to really save much money over cheap adapters on ebay or the ones from http://www.retrousb.com . I’m not really sure a hand-built box can really be competitive with cheaply mass produced parts with molded plastic cases.

Your right, but I dont aim at single adapters. My goal is to make what people cant get. And at that I’m the only pleace where you get custom orders. On a side note, the prefabrication on my box is near complete. I have made all kinds of customizations, from in drive bay adapters to arcade cab panels. The image above, hand made at that, is only the beta proto-type.

If you want a nes/n64/snes/sega…

RetroZone..
(4 adapters)
22
19
21
19

81

my adapter
(one adapter)
35
10
10
10

65

and if You have any skills to do it yourself, and use old extension cables.
(one adapter)
35

  • This reply was modified 11 years, 5 months ago by ulao.
  • This reply was modified 11 years, 5 months ago by ulao.

I agree with DogP… this thing just looks crazy.

As per your price example, take this into consideration…

I want to play NES, SNES, N64. So I buy…
RetroZone = 19+19+22=40
You = 55

Now a bit later I decide to get into Sega
RetroZone = 40 + 21 = 61
You = 55 + 35 = 90

Now lets say you make a generic box with 4 generic plugs, and you make adapters for each system. You sell the generic box for eh, say 40, and with that you throw in 1 free adapter. And you sell additional adapters for $5 each (because all it is is molded plastic and wires)

With the above example…
RetroZone still is 40 for the first part
You are now 50, a little more competitive.

For the second part…
RetroZone is still 61
You are now only 55, already a savings!

Or better yet, just break even with the hub (say maybe $20 or $25) and sell the adapters for $10 to make your money.

But if you are doing good with custom solutions, then stick with those I guess, but that box is pretty ugly and expensive.

Best of luck!

RetroZone = 19+19+22=40
You = 55

Like I said for common adapters you better to go else where. And to some one adapter to do it all is better then 3.

Now a bit later I decide to get into Sega
RetroZone = 40 + 21 = 61
You = 55 + 35 = 90

Again your adding another adapter. You can just send the same one back and add 10 $, your just playing number games here?

Now lets say you make a generic box with 4 generic plugs, and you make adapters for each system. You sell the generic box for eh, say 40, and with that you throw in 1 free adapter. And you sell additional adapters for $5 each (because all it is is molded plastic and wires)

With the above example…
RetroZone still is 40 for the first part
You are now 50, a little more competitive.

For the second part…
RetroZone is still 61
You are now only 55, already a savings!

As I said before that totality possible. Buy a $35 board and ask for a neo-geo for example. and I show right on my page how to make the neo-geo to snes, nes, sega etc… So that is really cheep if you can do the adapters.
$35 total

or like you said I can make the patch cables for you, but I have not priced that on my page, do to the fact I never had anyone ask for it. I I would agree $5 is reasonable.

but that box is pretty ugly and expensive

More then likely the price will change. This is like every other product out there, they always start high. mainly to re-cope R&d. If I find a company( still looking) to make the connectors I think the final product will be around $45. This would be a way a down the road and based on the prices of having it made. but its not ready for prime time just yet, I only meant to give an option for the VB fans just like I do for pc-fx fans. You wont find an adapter anywhere else. I appreciate the feed back , most certainly not heard this type of comment before, its a first but taking in to consideration.

  • This reply was modified 11 years, 5 months ago by ulao.

Well I thought I may as well post something here seeing as how I have already bought the product.

Even though this blissbox is homemade, it is a quality product. Of the 37 (different types) of controllers I have tested on this, only 3 do not work. The 35 that do work, work perfectly. It’s basic plug and play, no messing with additional software (except the xbox).

Well if you have any questions from a consumers stand point, please feel free to ask and I’ll do my best to answer your questions.

The only question I’ve got is how out of 37 different types you’ve tested, 35 work and 3 don’t 😛 .

DogP

DogP wrote:
The only question I’ve got is how out of 37 different types you’ve tested, 35 work and 3 don’t 😛 .

DogP

lol sorry about that maybe my math was a little off, it was 38 total controllers of which 3 didn’t work 🙂

Still though that’s pretty good compatibility.

Specialt1212: Which ones didn’t work? Original controllers or third party?

ulao: How do you make the controller-connectors yourself?

Specialt1212: Which ones didn’t work? Original controllers or third party?

for a list of working go here This is an effort by myself and Specialt1212..

ulao: How do you make the controller-connectors yourself?

– It took a long time to get it right. I started learning with alumilite but it just didnt meat my needs.. I use a certain mold and a certain plastic. Takes a long time to get the hang of, I use molex for the pins. If you want some specifics email me.

Maybe you could make Virtual Boy link-port connectors and cartridge connectors as well?

If I had the counter part, I maybe could. I have not seen what they look like.

 

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