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Recently, I won a auction lot full of old Nintendo promotional buttons. Included in this lot were buttons for various systems like SNES, Nintendo64 and even the PlayStation. This lot also included the yellow special value button pictured in this site under the merchandise section.

But the button that caught my eye was the one next to the yellow special value button. Its another special value button but with Virtual Boy graphics and a light sticking out from the letter “A” in the word value. This button doesn’t say Virtual Boy in any text but does so with the Red and Purple design of the button. Plus, wasnt the Virtual Boy the only system that got the ” special value ” treatment from Nintendo?

Now, this button has a on/off switch on the back of it. I flicked the switch on and nothing happened, so I figured it must just need a new battery. When I opened the back of the button ever so carefully I was shocked to see that this tiny light/Led needs 8 button cell batteries to operate, but the batteries and parts of the board are a bit corroded from them being left in there for 20 years, infact its so corroded that a little red wire became disconnected from the board and would now need to be soldered back in place. But thats not a job for me so im gonna do some research and see if I can find someone around my area that would be able to restore this thing back to its former glory. If I cant find anyone, then maybe an elite member with soldering skills from this site would like to take on the challenge. ” IT MUST BE SAVED “. I’ll definitely pay for your time and service.

I’m very curious to find out if the light shines Red or White and if it blinks/flashes or just stays on, and I cant seem to find any pictures or info of this thing online, not even on Nintendoage.com, and is the reason I’m calling it “undocumented”

What do you guys think about this promo item?

Picture 1 – shows both special value buttons.

Picture 2 – shows just the lighted special value button.

Picture 3 – shows the side of the item and its stand.

Picture 4 – shows the corroded batteries and board.

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Cool Find. Anyone with a bit of soldering skill could solder that wire back on. I know I could easily do it, and I don’t by any means have mad soldering skills.

That being said, I wouldn’t recommend this as a first project, find someone with at least some experience. =P

vuefinder83 wrote:

What do you guys think about this promo item?…

I think that the tiny light had better do something incredibly amazing, so as to require 8 button cell batteries to operate it. I just can’t imagine why it would need so many.

Benjamin Stevens wrote:

vuefinder83 wrote:

What do you guys think about this promo item?…

I think that the tiny light had better do something incredibly amazing, so as to require 8 button cell batteries to operate it. I just can’t imagine why it would need so many.

Haha seriously. Maybe it projects a 3D hologram of Dragon Hopper gameplay footage. Or maybe they foresaw how long the system would be in stock still on clearance, I have a boxed system with a late 1997 date written on the registration sticker…

Is there a pin as well or just the little kickstand? I can’t imagine wearing this thick button with 8 batteries inside.

If nobody else speaks up, I wouldn’t be opposed to reflowing some solder and getting that wire back in place too.

Sup guys… Sorry for the delayed update on this. I’ve actually been really busy the past couple of weeks but will soon have some free time to get this thing checked out. If it works, I’ll definitely post some more pics.

HP Lovethrash wrote:

Is there a pin as well or just the little kickstand? I can’t imagine wearing this thick button with 8 batteries inside.

No pin, just a stiff piece of plastic that looks like you can bend it but would probably snap if you tried. This piece of plastic has a white plastic nub inserted through it, as if it was once part of something bigger, like some sort of special value cardboard display or something.

I dont think this was made to be worn like a button at all, unless you wanna walk around blinding people all day with the laser beams that shoot out of this thing ( thanks to the 8 batteries ). =P

Benjamin Stevens wrote:

I think that the tiny light had better do something incredibly amazing, so as to require 8 button cell batteries to operate it. I just can’t imagine why it would need so many.

vuefinder83 wrote:

I dont think this was made to be worn like a button at all, unless you wanna walk around blinding people all day with the laser beams that shoot out of this thing ( thanks to the 8 batteries ). =P

Well, blinding laser beams are pretty amazing, so I guess they’re justified.

Benjamin Stevens wrote:

Well, blinding laser beams are pretty amazing, so I guess they’re justified.

Heh, I agree.

Quick update:
So I actually found some free time this morning so I ended up taking it to two different places. Both places specialize in computer repair.

The first place I took it to, the computer tech took a good look at it and said that he most likely can get it to work, so he excepted the challenge. But then when I told him that there was no way to get another one if anything was to happen to it, he then changed his mind and backed out. Said he didnt want to be responsible for it God forbid something was to happen.

So I then took it to another computer tech whos been working on computer boards for over 30 years. He took a good look at it and said he feels confident that he can get it working again. When I told him how rare it is and that there was basically no way to replace it if anything happened, he actually became excited to be a part of it. He then put on a pair of magnifying goggles and took a look at the light and said he couldn’t tell if it was a regular light or a Led, said he never saw a small light like that and became very curious to find out what it does as well.

So I left it with him, its in his hands now. Should get it back by the weekend, if not, then definitely sometime next week.

I’ll keep ya posted…

Just received a call from the technician. He tested the light and it works fine, said he’s having trouble getting the light to turn on/off from the power switch and asked if he could have some more time with it. I said yes…

8 batteries leaking in such a small enclosed space for such a long period of time really did a number to the pcb and all of its components. I really hope he can get it working.

Again, I’ll keep ya posted…

vuefinder83 wrote:
…He tested the light and it works…

It seems I misunderstood him when we had that brief conversation ( sorry ). Allow me to explain just what exactly happened here.

As I mentioned in my first post, I opened the back of this item ever so carefully and a wire became disconnected from the board. When I took it to the first guy, I opened it for him and a second wire became disconnected. So by the time I took it to the second guy both wires connecting the power switch to the board were disconnected. As this guy was checking out the power switch all he did was slightly move the wires and they both fell off in his hand. It was at that time I left it with him. A Couple days later I received a call from him. He was saying that during the removal of the batteries one of the battery holders split at the top and had to be repaired, so he repaired it. After connecting new wires and repairing the battery holder, he then flowed some solder over the needed areas of the pcb, put in new batteries, flicked the switch and nothing happened. Using a multimeter he can see that there was power flowing through the board all the way up to where the light connects to the pcb. So he desoldered the lights wire and connected it to an alternative power source with no luck getting it to turn on, so I decided to have him install a red flashing led with a water clear lens, and here’s why…

In 1996, during the Virtual Boy special value promotion, there weren’t many colors of leds available at that time, with red being one of the most popular ones its very likely that this items led was red flashing. But why would it need 8 batteries to achieve such a simple effect? Well, as I mentioned in one of my previous post, I believe that this lighted medallion was once part of a special value store display, and if it was then that would mean that it was most likely designed to stay turned on for weeks, possibly months at a time just quickly flashing a single red light every second or so at the people who passed by it, wich I think would explain the 8 batteries. Its original light certainly didn’t project/display any images as it turned out to be just a 5mm led.

Another reason I went with a quick flashing red led, is because I believe that the artwork of this item ( minus the text ) is representing a red flash followed by the purplish aurora that one would see if flashed once in the face with this thing =P

Hey, maybe some day another one of these will show up, one that is still fully functional with no battery corrosion and we will then know the true actions of this items original light.

vuefinder83 wrote:

… maybe some day another one of these will show up, one that is still fully functional with no battery corrosion and we will then know the true actions of this items original light.

Well, it is very unfortunate, indeed, that we don’t know now what the original light did, but I very much like your reasoning for installing the flashing red LED. Nice work with getting this rare piece of Virtual Boy history restored as best as possible.

Benjamin Stevens wrote:

Well, it is very unfortunate, indeed, that we don’t know now what the original light did, but I very much like your reasoning for installing the flashing red LED. Nice work with getting this rare piece of Virtual Boy history restored as best as possible.

Thanks Ben.

As you can imagine, I was pretty bummed out when he told me he couldn’t get the light to work. I really wanted to show the community what this item actually did. I couldn’t leave it in my collection with a broken light, so thats when the gears started turning. Even though I feel in my virtual soul, that this is what the item does, I couldn’t lie to the community and say that it was the original light. Not only would that be wrong, it would be messing with the systems history, wich I’m not here to do.

But man, how cool is it that 20 years later we’re still finding new things from the systems past?

vuefinder83 wrote:

But man, how cool is it that 20 years later we’re still finding new things from the systems past?

Very cool, and I expect that new Virtual Boy stuff will continue to be found in years to come!

It’s hard to be sure looking at these pics. But if you look at the PCB then it seems like there is a blob at the other side. Which would mean there is an IC there. Not SEEING light doesn’t mean there is no light. I just wonder if it wasn’t IR light. What the purpose of this would be is unknown to me. But with an IC and a IR led you could send out a IR signal that can be received by another device.

Maybe some kind of stunt in which the badge is the key in making something happen.

I know this is a long shot… but it’s all based on it being a blob on the other side of the PCB and the led not giving any light. Although leds do die easily in some conditions.

Edit:
Also, the traces that apear through the PCB do not make any sence when it would only be to light up the led. There must be more to this button like device then just a led lighting up.

  • This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by DrWho198.

DrWho198 wrote:
It’s hard to be sure looking at these pics. But if you look at the PCB then it seems like there is a blob at the other side. Which would mean there is an IC there. Not SEEING light doesn’t mean there is no light. I just wonder if it wasn’t IR light. What the purpose of this would be is unknown to me. But with an IC and a IR led you could send out a IR signal that can be received by another device.

Maybe some kind of stunt in which the badge is the key in making something happen.

Interesting, I never considered the possibility of it being a infrared device. The LED does kind of look like something you’d see on the front of a remote control or something. If it is, then I have no idea what this device could’ve possibly triggered. Maybe that’s why the technician couldn’t see the light. He told me that he thinks that some of the battery acid found its way in the lens of the LED and damaged it.

DrWho198 wrote:

I know this is a long shot… but it’s all based on it being a blob on the other side of the PCB and the led not giving any light. Although leds do die easily in some conditions.

Now, I dont know jack spit when it comes to circuit boards and junk, but I have a GBA promo button that has a pcb with what appears to be a blob between its two batteries, and this button coincidentally flashes a red LED as well. Im pretty sure it doesn’t send out any signals or anything so does the presence of a blob on a pcb always determine a ic is being used?

A blob always means an IC is used. but what kind is unknown. If you say the other button blinks then that’s probably what the IC is for. But if this Led doesn’t ‘visibly’ blinks then the IC in that blob has a different use. Its hard to be sure judging by that picture, but it sure seems like a lot of traces going to the IC. Which would suggest something more complicated.

Again… only by viewing these pictures, it even looks like there is an array of pads above the blob. What are they doing there? connect to something? Maybe to program the IC? Who knows. The thing with blobs is that what lies below is always a mystery.

Well, if it was a infrared device that communicated with another separate device, then this item would be pretty much useless without the other device it was supposed to control. I doubt that I will ever find that other device, so maybe it was best I had him install the LED, at least this way I can actually see it doing something now.

I still believe this item was part of a store display, infrared or not, and I think the only other way we can find out what this item really does, without waiting for somebody to come forth with another one, would be to find someone that has either the 1st or 2nd half of 1996 retail rental display program (catalog). This catalog should show pictures with a description of what this item does. The catalog would be used by store managers to view everything that was in the 1st and 2nd half of the 1996 display order forms. The order forms were used to order store displays and signage for their location, so I really think this item should be pictured somewhere in that catalog. I’m sure the catalog is pretty rare but I bet somebody out there has it in their possession but doesn’t quite realize the significance of the Virtual Boy section.

Here’s the link to a thread I made about the 2nd half of 1995 display order forms, just to give an idea. There’s a screenshot image of a page from the 1st half of 1995 display catalog, on the third forum page.

http://www.planetvb.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6093&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

FWIW, my guess is that the CoB (“blob”) was just a blinker circuit for a standard LED (possibly blinking in a special pattern instead of just a steady rhythm), and the large number of batteries was just to increase runtime so it wouldn’t have to be switched on/off all the time (since it was part of a fixed display stand, rather than being worn on one’s person).

Just my two cents…

An IR led is indeed a wild guess… but I still find this circuit too complex for blinking. You can’t look through the pcb very well. But I can easily distinguish at least 12 lines comming from the blob. Not to mention that you can even more easily see there are 12 square pads above it.

What I find even stranger is the fact that after repair, you can not see a visible blink. The batteries though don’t puzzle me as you can see that some are put parallel instead of in serries. This clearly suggests that it is done to get it running longer.

For me it remains a mystery.
If you wich to know if the led was ir or not, and if you still have it. Then you could hook it up and look at it through your mobile phones camera. If you see it light up in the camera then its IR… if not then it’s probably dead.

  • This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by DrWho198.

DrWho198 wrote:

If you wich to know if the led was ir or not, and if you still have it. Then you could hook it up and look at it through your mobile phones camera. If you see it light up in the camera then its IR… if not then it’s probably dead.

That’s a pretty neat trick. I tried it out on a few tv remotes. Unfortunately, the original light was disposed of because I forgot to tell him that I still wanted to keep it…😞

I wish I took a picture of the reverse side of the PCB so you guys can scope it out. Because I hope to never have to open this thing up again unless it needs new batteries as everything thats attached to the board is extremely fragile and brittle.

I’m with RunnerPack, especially if there was more than one LED so that they could flash in a ‘flowing’ sequence.

Batteries on these don’t last long, so that would make sense too.

I don’t think there’s any kind of connecting data hidden away that would interest a VB historian as such, as it is just an LED on a badge. A remote control would need a much bigger PCB for example.

 

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